This is less of a discussion than a place where we can ask for prayer for those nearest to us.  You don't have to go into details if you don't want to, you don't even have to mention people by name.

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Dear Patricia, I'm sorry but need to make sure if the girls did accept Christ as their Savior or not. Even if they want it, being driven out of their own parents itself might give them another big hurt. But in verse, to live with their abusive father or unprotectable mother would be a constant heart-breaking pain. I as a stranger who doesn't know much about them and situation can't think of better solution but pray that God accomplish His way and make all bad things into the good.
Praying for your own children not to be hurt by them or gossip and for you to remain in hope finding the way He's leading into.
Love & Blessings
They say they believe, and I know they were baptised as children, but must be honest and say have more belief than their parents do. Problem is they don't really know the difference between right and wrong, because their father doesn't seem to. When the youngest took some money from the girlfriend I had words with her a few days later asking her 'I've told you enough times, don't steal.' Her answer was 'I didn't steal, I take.' I did explain that if you take without the owner's permission and don't intend to return it, that is stealing.' I hope I got through to her.

Fortunately, my own children are grown up and live in England, not here in Ukraine. My foster children do understand. Their attitude being 'At least my parents wanted me and got taken to court to have me dragged away from them.' As you say, I just have to keep praying about it, and do what I can.
Patricia, how's it gone, going to see Social Services district yesterday, any good news? If there is anything to add on my prayer, please, let me know.
TTL Social are on our and her side. dad evidently took her to mum, she didn't go herself, but his girlfriend wouldn't even let her in the house. Social took my advice from last time she ran away and made dad wait outside while they questioned her, so she told them the truth this time and Social noticed she was terrified of dad.

Our Social has been in touch with mum's Social and they are going to keep an eye on her. Give her a week or two then check the living arrangements. From what I told them they will then take her away and then starts the long process of getting mum and dad's rights taken away, they are then going to start trying to get her into our care. Please pray hard about this as there are many steps over here and it can fall flat on it's face in any one of them, particularly if dad finds out they are going to try to get her to us.

Rachel E. Yi said:
Patricia, how's it gone, going to see Social Services district yesterday, any good news? If there is anything to add on my prayer, please, let me know.
Please pray for my brother. Although we're long adults, he's still my "little brother". In the past year or so, it's become uncomfortably clear that he not only isn't Christian, he's actively atheist. Although we were once close (and haven't had any open falling out), I'm lucky I hear from him once per year. He doesn't respond to calls or emails. My one source of info is that he's on Facebook. Looking at his Facebook page, you don't have to read between the lines. He 'friends" professed athiests. His "likes" and things he supports are openly promoting atheism. It makes me so sad and afraid for him (and for those he may influence).
I don't like what he has become and yet I love him. Helping him is way bigger than me. I pray to the only One who can reach him. but I know that relationship with the Lord is a choice that He lets us each make. I pray while there is still time (& therefore hope) that there will be a crack in this wall my brother has built around himself so that the Lord can fill him.
When we first came here we had a man from the street living with us, knew the Bible, could quote chapter and verse etc. He was like a son to Len and I. He's the father of the children I was talking about above. As Ukraine is basically a Christian country, it was all a show and he has since, when in a temper with me, admitted he doesn't believe in God at all. Different things have happened to him during his life, starting from childhood and he has nearly died at least five times that I know of. Because of this I know God has things planned for him, so I just have to keep praying for him and be there when he hits rock bottom. This is also all you can do for your brother. As you say, we ourselves can do nothing. Trying to talk to them will make them worse so just keep the prayer going as I do for this other man.
Please keep a friend, Phil in prayers. He has some health problems.

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