Is it possible to lose your salvation?

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Permalink Reply by Gerald Fleming on August 16, 2010 at 8:15pm

Yes there are several scriptures that point to the possibility. One is "If we willfully keep on sinning there is no more sacrifice for sin. Also Hebrews Chapter 6 points to this and several Revelations scriptures.

Permalink Reply by Janine Tacey on August 16, 2010 at 8:43pm

I would have to question whether the person was truly saved to begin with if he "continues and continues to live in sin." We die to sin when we are truly born again. It is not that we never sin again, but we should reach a point in our pilgrimage where it disturbs us greatly when we do sin and as we are transformed by the Word we actually are able (with God's help) to sin less. I say a person cannot lose their salvation if truly saved as a truly converted person should be walking out that salvation with fear and trembling not continual sin.

Permalink Reply by Michele De Jesus on August 16, 2010 at 11:56pm

Thank you, Janine.

Janine Tacey said:

I would have to question whether the person was truly saved to begin with if he "continues and continues to live in sin." We die to sin when we are truly born again. It is not that we never sin again, but we should reach a point in our pilgrimage where it disturbs us greatly when we do sin and as we are transformed by the Word we actually are able (with God's help) to sin less. I say a person cannot lose their salvation if truly saved as a truly converted person should be walking out that salvation with fear and trembling not continual sin.

Permalink Reply by Jerry Morgan Pierce Jr. on August 17, 2010 at 7:58pm

I agree with you and disagree with you for there are those who at a point in there life they were true Christians with all genuine transformation and then for some reason they turned and walked away from that and turned back to the world.
the important thing to remember here is we are not the judge and I for one am glad for there are way to many things that just don't add up for me. And the next important thing is to be doing every thing !!!!!!!!!!! possible to make sure your living your life the way God tells us to do and you should not have to worry. But if you have doubts then maybe you should go back and look at what God's word has to say and then do the b est you can with that information. I hope this helps you out . your friend misterp

Janine Tacey said:

I would have to question whether the person was truly saved to begin with if he "continues and continues to live in sin." We die to sin when we are truly born again. It is not that we never sin again, but we should reach a point in our pilgrimage where it disturbs us greatly when we do sin and as we are transformed by the Word we actually are able (with God's help) to sin less. I say a person cannot lose their salvation if truly saved as a truly converted person should be walking out that salvation with fear and trembling not continual sin.

Permalink Reply by Linda Ann McElreath on September 9, 2010 at 9:29pm

i have the problem, with is, if a prson is truly a Christian, how can they live in a sinful nature, aganist Gods laws and commandments and still go to Heaven. As I try to live each day under Laws and Commandments that God set forth for us to live.

I know severally people, who proclaim to be Christian, but they are living in moral lives each day. God instuited marriage, yet they refused to follow God commandment on mariage. How can they go to heaven, And I am living by choic celbate life style.

Permalink Reply by Servants_Heart on September 11, 2010 at 9:37am

I understand what you are saying. I can say a lot about wanting to do the right thing because of what my Savior has done already for me. The thing is we all are in different places in pour walk with Goid. Where one person is in one area may not be the ame place as others are . We all have different areas where we are very advanced than in other areas where we just dont understand the depth of what His truth is. This why I believed that Judging others is not something any of us should participate in. Now your friends most likely are Christians that just have not reach the maturity in that area as you have. However it dsoes not mena you are further along cause that is only one area of life of many didfferent areas. The thing is to love people pray to God for them that he lights up that area in their walk.. leave it to Jesus to judge or to say. He is walking all of us along not one of us is without sin. There is no way to tell for sure about what others are so the best policy is to look at ourselves try to increase the intensity of our light to shine his love out to others pray the HolY Spirit moves and show the Lord's way. I hope this helps you some. .

Linda Ann McElreath said:

i have the problem, with is, if a prson is truly a Christian, how can they live in a sinful nature, aganist Gods laws and commandments and still go to Heaven. As I try to live each day under Laws and Commandments that God set forth for us to live.

I know severally people, who proclaim to be Christian, but they are living in moral lives each day. God instuited marriage, yet they refused to follow God commandment on mariage. How can they go to heaven, And I am living by choic celbate life style.

Permalink Reply by Tami on September 13, 2010 at 9:51am

There is also the differences in social norms and customs that have to be considered. Where we might think and believe one thing, location and societal differences can come into play. While you might not agree with how someone else is living or acting, keep living as you know is right and pray for them.

Permalink Reply by Edgar Alan Smith on October 22, 2010 at 12:45am

Gerald Fleming said:

Yes there are several scriptures that point to the possibility. One is "If we willfully keep on sinning there is no more sacrifice for sin. Also Hebrews Chapter 6 points to this and several Revelations scriptures.

Permalink Reply by sandra gartner on December 26, 2010 at 8:39pm

Exactly, and it also states in the bible, that He who He has started good works in will continue, so if someone does stray, they Lord is still there working on them.

Tami said:

There is also the differences in social norms and customs that have to be considered. Where we might think and believe one thing, location and societal differences can come into play. While you might not agree with how someone else is living or acting, keep living as you know is right and pray for them.

Permalink Reply by Wesley White on January 17, 2011 at 6:18pm

This is a good courageous discussion on losing ones salvation - however, within it I can see the seeds of weighing some sins as "worse" then others. The truth is that we all sin, and fall short of the glory of God. When we begin the seeds of the argument "How can they go to heaven..." can't we all point that light back on ourselves and our lives following our conversion to following Christ. Peter denied Christ three times, did he lose his salvation at this point and need to somehow "regain" his salvation? Looking at Peter's denial of Christ, who the Lord entrusted to lead the early church followers, we must truly examine Hebrews chapter 6. I would put forth the argument that this chapter is talking about our relationship with the Lord, as opposed to a continual sin that keeps us from our Salvation. Jesus desires to have a personal relationship with us, and not a one-time conversion that leads us to be sin-free. It's through this relationship that God brings us closer to him. Sin does set us back from the lives that He desires for us, his children, but the keeping of the relationship is what is important. After Peter denied Christ, things could never be the same, he couldn't get re-baptized and start over, he had to repair the relationship. He had to face what he had done. But in facing what he had done, we can see through him that God continues to love us despite our shortcomings. 

 

Everyone has sin that the devil uses against them.  The devil is very skilled at using our temptations to make us think that we aren't worthy of God's glory. Because, we know that we are horribly sinful people, who through our own accord can not meet the standard of perfection. But, we know who can, and that is the Glory of God. 

 

A relationship with the almighty brings us to his saving grace. He in his infinite creativity, made us all unique, with unique struggles and in turn, and because of this we have different temptations to different sins, but he is not done, the relationship will be continually fixed and Christ will advocate for us on the day of judgement, if we are His and He knows us. 

 

The Lord loves us, He has called us to much more, and wants us to give sins to Him, as He works to refine us. Our creator understands us more then we can ever imagine - and when all things are brought to light we are all guilty, even our sin-life after salvation would be enough to condemn us to hell if it wasn't for Him who is faultless. So the question is, what is our relationship with Him?  

Permalink Reply by Brett McNeill on January 25, 2011 at 11:39am

My answer is, "Yes", and "I don't know."  Most people think of Salvation as an event, past or future.  They say, "I was saved at church camp the summer I turned 13", to describe something that happened in the past.  Or, they talk about final salvation for eternity in Heaven.  However, while Salvation is something that was given to us at a moment  in the past and it is something we hope for in our future,  it is offered by grace in the present moment, too.

 

You lose your salvation in the moment because anyone who "continues to live in sin" is existing without the full measure of grace and deliverance that God freely gives to His children.  Like the prodigal son, we are still children of the Father, but can find ourselves in squalor at the pig trough as a direct result of our desire to go our own way.  It's the garden's  first and greatest deception, "You can be your own god; you can take care of yourself."  Only by returning at every moment to our Father's house can we fully enjoy the rich blessings there.  Our willful stubbornness and pride keep us removed from His forgiving embrace right now.

 

As for final standing, I just don't know.  I do know I am not the judge and the One who is has let us know He is a jealous God.  But then again, there is Jesus and grace.  The problem is my own sense of Justice and Mercy are skewed in my favor.  I tend to believe that God likes what I like and despise those whom I despise.  I would not allow ungrateful, disrespectful enemies into my house, but, isn't that the message of the Gospel?

Permalink Reply by Jerry Morgan Pierce Jr. on January 25, 2011 at 3:18pm

A very interesting view.

Brett McNeill said:

My answer is, "Yes", and "I don't know."  Most people think of Salvation as an event, past or future.  They say, "I was saved at church camp the summer I turned 13", to describe something that happened in the past.  Or, they talk about final salvation for eternity in Heaven.  However, while Salvation is something that was given to us at a moment  in the past and it is something we hope for in our future,  it is offered by grace in the present moment, too.

 

You lose your salvation in the moment because anyone who "continues to live in sin" is existing without the full measure of grace and deliverance that God freely gives to His children.  Like the prodigal son, we are still children of the Father, but can find ourselves in squalor at the pig trough as a direct result of our desire to go our own way.  It's the garden's  first and greatest deception, "You can be your own god; you can take care of yourself."  Only by returning at every moment to our Father's house can we fully enjoy the rich blessings there.  Our willful stubbornness and pride keep us removed from His forgiving embrace right now.

 

As for final standing, I just don't know.  I do know I am not the judge and the One who is has let us know He is a jealous God.  But then again, there is Jesus and grace.  The problem is my own sense of Justice and Mercy are skewed in my favor.  I tend to believe that God likes what I like and despise those whom I despise.  I would not allow ungrateful, disrespectful enemies into my house, but, isn't that the message of the Gospel?