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Should Christians go out clubbing? Our latest article is about clubbing, now debate and have your say!
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Permalink Reply by chamyantie lal on -
My dear spiritually sick people need a hospital (church) rather than a club. The Holy Spirit is the doctor and Jesus is the medication. I am not saying that we need to be super religious and as you put it be in a christain safe environment only, but i doubt there would be much ministering done when the music is soo loud and "shake you booty" is being played in the background. It would be hard to tell someone of Christ when they might be lusting after someone in the dance floor. I tried to do that in a party once. It did not work out so well. Please don't throw me out of this discussions.
Peter McMurray said:We also need to make sure we don't end up living in a Christian bubble with our safe 'Christian' music and Christian friends though. Afterall, I believe it was Jesus who said "The sick need a doctor, not the healthy", and there's more likely to be more 'spiritually sick' people at a club than at a Christian rock concert.
I have gone out to clubs with non-Christian friends and it has enabled me to grow in friendship with them, which has lead to being given more opportunity to talk about my faith with them.
I don't think it is a case of leaving God in the car (or the cab/at home if you've walked to the club as I tend to do), but being a representative for Him in the club - not necessarily to everyone there who will have no way of knowing you are a Christian, but to the non-Christian friends you have gone with/met up with in the club, casting off the image they have that Christians can't have a good time, and showing them you can enjoy yourself, and have a bit to drink, without getting drunk
Beckie Knox said:I know that we as children of God are to be different from the world. We are not to blend in to the ways that we think are ok. That's how satan slowly crawls his way in. The bible tells us that we are not to conform to the world. (2 Corinthians 1:12 For this is what we boast about: our conscience testifies that we have conducted ourselves in the world with pure motives an godly sincerity, without earthly wisdon but with God's grace-especially toward you. Now I like to have fun just like the next person, but we have to be careful of what we do and who's watching and listening. My daddy use to tell me to always go where God was welcome to go. Do we think that when we go somewhere that we can leave God in the car. How much do you do for God while your in the club? Do you wear a sign that states I'm a Christian and I'm not drinking, it's just juice. I love to dance and always have. I love going to Christian rock concerts and I can move dance and have FUN as a Christian. Or I dance at home with my dog. Really it's fun. God wants us to have a great life, but we have to be careful cause we are different from the world. We're God's children and special. I use to go to clubs and each of us have to decide what we do but be sure that God leads you. Not you and not the world. -
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Permalink Reply by Peter McMurray on -
Robin - sorry, did not intend to come across as attacking you, I just was interested to see what Bible verses you were basing your stance on as obviously it was different to my own stance. And with regards the quoting, I just find that in many web forums it is the standard thing to do when you are responding to a specific person in a discussion forum, nothing malicious meant by it!
You asked about my conversations in clubs/out drinking with non-Christian friends. Well, I will be honest and say that out clubbing, no God doesn't come up in conversation much, mainly because there isn't a lot of conversation as the music doesn't really lend itself well to being able to have a good chat. I am not in any way a regular attender of clubs, I just go to the odd student party, and have found that through going out with my uni friends I have got closer to them (especially I have found with the people in my halls of residence that my going out with them the odd time has had a good impact on them, and has bult a better friendship, out of which at other times conversations about God have come that probably wouldn't if I hadn't gotten closer to them through the experience of going out with them.) In addition on one occassion in particular I was out with some girls from halls who had got somewhat drunk, and so was able to ensure they got back home safely.
Most of the time when i have been drinking without clubbing it is with Christian friends, just because my closest group of friends happen to be mainly Christians and also when I am out I am usually driving, but on the one occassion I can think of that I was out for a meal with non-Christian (and Christian) friends and I did have a Magners I did have a pretty good discussion with a couple of guys about Christian matters (can't remember exactly what it was all about, but I know I defintely talked about my devotional writing with them - in particular the book I had published)
Also like you, I do not find the Christian life boring, I find it completely satisfying and fulfilling. But the cliche stereotype among young people today is that Christianity is real dull and all about not going out and having fun, and I think it is important to show people that you can enjoy alcohol without being drunk, that you can have a good time out at a club without being drunk, and also that Christians don't just spend all their time doing 'holy/church' stuff. -
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chamyantie lal said:
True they need a church more than a club, but it is my experience that when people are out clubbing (late night time at the weekend/every night if you are a student) the churches tend to be shut. And when churches are open most club going lost people tend to be asleep in bed. If they won't come to us in the church surely we should be going out to the clubs to meet them where they are? After all Jesus wasn't afraid to hang out with prostitutes and other such didgy characters. But at the same time, if it is not an environment you enjoy OR it isn't an environment that you can prosper in your Christian walk in, then I would say avoid it. But if you enjoy the music and can avoid the temptations then I see no reason not to do what you can to be Christ's hands and feet in those locations. It could be something as simple as being a prayer warrior on the dancefloor, and then seeing what happens from there. It could be the opprotunity for chat you have with your non-Christan friends on the way home that otherwsie you would miss out on. It could be helping someone get home safely.My dear spiritually sick people need a hospital (church) rather than a club. The Holy Spirit is the doctor and Jesus is the medication. I am not saying that we need to be super religious and as you put it be in a christain safe environment only, but i doubt there would be much ministering done when the music is soo loud and "shake you booty" is being played in the background. It would be hard to tell someone of Christ when they might be lusting after someone in the dance floor. I tried to do that in a party once. It did not work out so well. Please don't throw me out of this discussions.
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Permalink Reply by Shannnon Marie King on -
Hi all, I just want to say the The Word of God does tell us we are not to be of the world...that being said i personally don't believe that a Christian should be out clubbing, it is a poor reflection of Christ...yes we do need to help those who need help, yet this can be done without compromising our walk with Christ...i don't think or believe for one moment that you can truely witness in a loud, sometimes vulgar, sensual place, unless of course, you go outside where you and the one you are witnessing to can hear your testimony or whatever it is you want to share with them...now is it sin to go to a kareoke bar, or a pub, or a club, no i dont think it is a sin, unless you are there doing sinful things...although a clubs atmosphere is very different in that there is loud suggestive music, drinking of alcohol mixed in, and this can be a very dangerous combination, and as far as i know there are not usually any quiet spots to talk besides outside...so i believe for me, no clubbing is not a good thing to be doing, and let's just be real, Jesus traveled by foot and boat and there weren't alot or any clubs to hang out in, he went by foot from place to place and the hurting people were out in the open where everyone else was unless they were in their homes too sick to come out to see him in which case someone ususally came to get Jesus...let's not try to make it out like Jesus was out in the clubs dancing and drinking with all the hurting people ministering to them like that, and yes i agree that their drink and our drink, very different....i hope i have not offended as that is not my intention...as a mother i will not be encouraging my children to go clubbing to minister or that clubbing and drinking a drink is a good Christian example to be setting for others...one other thing being a Christian is not boreing and it is a shame that people get this idea, as if the only fun to be had is in drinking and dancing, or clubbing, etc...i mean this next thing...God bless you all...i am just expressing what i believe as you are doing...May God's face shine on you all...
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Permalink Reply by Shannnon Marie King on
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i just want to say i am not offended, although, i believe it is not important what you think you are showing others it is what they are seeing you do, hearing you say, etc...it is how they perceive you..if a person who does not know God sees you drinking and clubbing, knowing you are a Christian, they will see something far different that what you are thinking you are showing them...it's not about what you are trying to show it is what they see...unfortunately the world judges us Christians instantly by what they see, not what is inside us, this they only know if they take the time to find out...our 1st impression needs to be like Jesus's was, miraculous....God Bless and may His face shine upon you...
Barbara M. Adan said:Hello all! This was an interesting question so I thought I might share my two cents. I do not see a problem with going out to a club and having fun with friends. I think as with anything we do, it’s how we carry ourselves and the intent we have in going there, what it is that you’re looking for. Having “fun” means different things to different people as well. I think it only is wrong when it causes you to go against the things you personally believe.
I have gone out to clubs with friends and had fun without doing anything that would cause me to compromise who I am as a young Christian woman. Have I had a few drinks with friends while out? Yes sometimes I have, but I have done so in a manner where I did not allow myself to become intoxicated or do anything to compromise the things I believe. We simply danced, laughed and had fun together. We’ve also gone out and had fun in those same clubs by not drinking too. We look out for each other and even for those that happen to be around us. Whether you choose to drink or not is a personal decision. The people I spend time with (Christian and non-Christian) support the decisions I make to keep true to what I believe. Sometimes it leads us to conversations about what I or we believe in regards to God. And I can see where some of those friends now are more open to discussing Christ and Christianity than before.
I believe Peter (McMurray) said earlier that you can be a representative of Christ wherever you go. I believe this. While you may not necessarily be out ministering to others or having conversations about Christ while you’re out in a club with friends, don’t you think that Christ can still continue to shine through us by our actions? I do. I don’t think we leave Christ at the door at all. I think he’s with us continuously and works through us to help others regardless of where we are or what the circumstance is. I think the key is to listen to what he’s telling you.
I hope I haven’t offended anyone! Simply wanted to share my two cents on this… -
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Permalink Reply by Paula on
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Nothing wrong with clubbing, just don't get caught up in drunk drama. Avoid harm to anyone/yourself.I've been sober 6 yrs and I go to clubs to dance to a good band or do karaoke at times. GODS grace for sure.HE has given me stregnth/faith to be around alcohol and yet NOT desire any of it.Peace to all.
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Permalink Reply by Donnie Green on -
I personally do not go clubbing. I would say that there is nothing wrong with clubbing as long as you carry yourself as Jesus would. The Christian life is about being Christ-like. There is also nothing wrong about taking the light into the darkness. The Bible encourages it. But like I said, being a Christian is being like Christ. I guess the best thing to say is that it is fine, but just do not compromise your faith.
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Permalink Reply by mark on -
FLASH IS WEAK IM A DRANKI WENT TO BARS ABOUT A YEAR . LOVE COUTRY LISTEN BAND COFFEE NOTTING MORE THIS WAS AFTER MY AA MEETING AND ONE DAY AFTER THAT I WAS DRINKING I WAS SOBER 1 YEAR IM IN THIS WORLD BUT NOT PART OF IT DEAR THAT TIMESOBER I WAS SETTING MY SELF UP FOR A DRINK PRAY FOR MY SPELLING THANK YOU FOR LETTER KEPER COMING GOD LOVES US AND HE USE THAT THAT TO SHOWME
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